Can foes block Obama second term by blocking Electoral College?









While the work of governing goes on in Washington, some members of the permanent opposition to President Obama continue to register their disdain for not only the incumbent but for the electoral process that granted him a second term.

Their solution? Change the rules, or get out of the game.


On the latter front, protesters continue to signal their contempt for Obama with online petitions calling for their states to secede from the United States. Nearly 1 million people in all 50 states have now signed, according to McClatchy Newspapers, which totaled the signatures accumulating on a White House website.





That number could seem alarming to Obama supporters, but consider this: As of Tuesday afternoon, about 2,300 people had signed the petition “Grant peaceful secession to the state of California in order to form a new and independent sovereign state.”  That trailed the 3,900 who had signed a petition to the White House titled “Nationalize the Twinkie Industry.”


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The Constitution makes no provision for states to secede from the union. But signing a petition is one way to blow off some steam.


Another fantasy maneuver has been making the rounds among Obama denialists in recent days. Under this construct, the Democrat could still be blocked from a second term if presidential electors from the states that favored Republican Mitt Romney simply boycotted the Electoral College voting.


Judson Phillips proposed that subterfuge a week ago on the far-right website World Net Daily.  Phillips, listed as a founder of the Tea Party Nation, suggested that the Electoral College could not have a quorum if enough states boycotted. He claimed that the 12th Amendment to the Constitution required two-thirds of the states to participate.  Without that quorum, Phillips wrote, the selection of the president would be thrown into the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, which would install Romney. (Never mind Obama’s 3.5-million popular-vote advantage and 126 electoral-vote margin.)


This idea had some extremists all atwitter for a few days.  Among those intrigued by the idea was a state senator from Idaho, Sheryl Nuxoll of Cottonwood, who used Twitter to send out a link to Phillips’ story. “A ‘last chance’ to have Mitt Romney as President in January (it’s still not too late),” Nuxoll said.


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The fantasy scenario got a shot of new life Tuesday, when a couple of newspapers reported on Nuxoll’s interest in reworking the electoral math. Alas for the fanatics, if they had returned to the World Net Daily site and Phillips original story, they would see an editor's note had been appended.


“Since this column was posted,” it reads, “it has been discovered that the premise presented about the Electoral College and the Constitution is in error. According to the 12th Amendment, a two-thirds quorum is required in the House of Representatives, not the Electoral College.”


Romney electors can stamp their feet, hold their breath, or even stay away on Dec. 17, when the Electoral College is scheduled to meet in state capitols around the country. That will not prevent the 332 Obama electors from casting their ballots for the incumbent.


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SolarCity Preps for IPO, Prices Its Shares



After postponing its public market debut because of Superstorm Sandy (the irony of that can’t go unmentioned), SolarCity is on the verge of an IPO. Seven months after filing its prospectus, the company has priced its IPO shares between $13 and $15, according to its SEC filing.

The San Mateo-based solar-energy company is selling 10.07 million shares, hoping to raise $151 million. Public market trading in the stock is likely to start in the next few weeks.


Founded by brothers Lyndon and Peter Rive, SolarCity installs solar-energy systems on the roofs of private homes, industrial and government buildings, schools, and shopping malls. Customers include Walmart, Stanford University, and SpaceX. The last contract is no coincidence. Tesla Motors (TSLA) and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, who is the cousin of the Rive brothers, is the SolarCity chairman. Having Musk on its board has seemed to help SolarCity, as it’s one of the most anticipated alternative energy IPO since Tesla.


If the IPO performs well, as is expected, it will be a bright end to a dismal year for U.S.-based green tech investments. Green energy companies raised 87 percent less on the public markets during the the first quarter of 2012 as compared to 2011. The overall environment was so dodgy for anything “green” that BrightSource Energy, a solar thermal power plant startup, pulled its IPO in April, saying it couldn’t get the valuation it wanted. And the bad news didn’t end there for North America-based green energy companies. Thanks to a surplus of low-cost Chinese-manufactured solar panels, prices for solar panels fell20 percent. That’s put the squeeze on solar-panel manufacturers like First Solar (FSLR) and Suntech Power (STP), both of which have taken stock price hits this year as they’ve struggled to compete.


But the falling cost of solar panels has been a boon for SolarCity, which acts as a third party between photovoltaic cell manufacturers, and the consumers and businesses that want to tap into savings that solar power can offer. As the price for panels has fallen, so has the cost of using solar energy in comparison to getting electricity from your local utility. “While these developments have adversely impacted panel manufacturers and the overall upstream market, we and other downstream companies have benefited significantly,” SolarCity wrote in its filing. “In 2006, the year we commenced business, solar panel prices were 472 percent higher than now.”


For the nine months ending September 2012, SolarCity lost $77 million on $103 million in revenue. In 2011, the company lost $73 million on $59 million in sales.


The company will trade on the Nasdaq under the ticker SCTY. Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, Needham & Company, Roth Capital Partners and BofA Merrill Lynch are underwriters.


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‘Two and a Half Men’ actor not expected on set












NEW YORK (AP) — The teenage actor who stars in “Two and a Half Men” and called the CBS comedy “filth” may have some time before he faces the show’s producers.


Angus T. Jones wasn’t expected at rehearsal Tuesday because he is not going to be in the episode they are filming, according to a person close to the show who spoke on condition of anonymity because producers were not commenting publicly.












Jones, 19, has been on the show, which used to feature bad-boy actor Charlie Sheen and remains heavy with sexual innuendo, since he was 10 but says in a video posted online by a Christian church that he doesn’t want to be on it anymore.


“Please stop watching it,” Jones said. “Please stop filling your head with filth.”


The person familiar with the production schedule said Jones does not appear in either of the two episodes filming before the end of the year, so he wouldn’t be expected back at work until after the New Year.


His character has been largely absent because he has joined the Army.


CBS and producer Warner Bros. Television have not commented.


“Two and a Half Men” survived a wild publicity ride less than two years ago, when Sheen was fired for his drug use and publicly complained about the network and the show’s creator, Chuck Lorre.


Jones plays Jake, the son of Jon Cryer’s uptight divorced chiropractor character, Alan, and the nephew of Sheen’s hedonistic philandering music jingle writer, Charlie. Sheen was replaced by Ashton Kutcher, who plays billionaire Walden.


In the video posted by Forerunner Chronicles in Seale, Ala., Jones describes a search for a spiritual home. He says the type of entertainment he’s involved in adversely affects the brain and “there’s no playing around when it comes to eternity.”


“You cannot be a true God-fearing person and be on a television show like that,” he said. “I know I can’t. I’m not OK with what I’m learning, what the Bible says, and being on that television show.”


The show was moved from Monday to Thursday this season, and its average viewership has dropped from 20 million an episode to 14.5 million, although last year’s numbers were somewhat inflated by the intense interest in Kutcher’s debut. It is the third most popular comedy on television behind CBS’s “The Big Bang Theory” and ABC’s “Modern Family.”


The actors on “Two and a Half Men” have contracts that run through the end of the season.


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Global Update: Investing in Eyeglasses for Poor Would Boost International Economy


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Eliminating the worldwide shortage of eyeglasses could cost up to $28 billion, but would add more than $200 billion to the global economy, according to a study published last month in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization.


The $28 billion would cover the cost of training 65,000 optometrists and equipping clinics where they could prescribe eyeglasses, which can now be mass-produced for as little as $2 a pair. The study was done by scientists from Australia and the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.


The authors assumed that 703 million people worldwide have uncorrected nearsightedness or farsightedness severe enough to impair their work, and that 80 percent of them could be helped with off-the-rack glasses, which would need to be replaced every five years.


The biggest productivity savings from better vision would not be in very poor regions like Africa but in moderately poor countries where more people have factory jobs or trades like driving or running a sewing machine.


Without the equivalent of reading glasses, “lots of skilled crafts become very difficult after age 40 or 45,” said Kevin Frick, a Johns Hopkins health policy economist and study co-author. “You don’t want to be swinging a hammer if you can’t see the nail.”


If millions of schoolchildren who need glasses got them, the return on investment could be even greater, he said, but that would be in the future and was not calculated in this study.


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Dark Warnings About Future of Internet Access








PARIS — Every time an Internet user watches “Gangnam Style” on YouTube, packets of digital data course through the global telecommunications system, converging on an iPhone, a tablet or a laptop.




Having missed out on most of the lucrative revenue that the explosion of digital content has generated for Internet companies, telecommunications providers in Europe, Africa, the Middle East and elsewhere now want to charge them for carrying this traffic.


No way, the content providers say.


This commercial and ideological clash is set for a showdown next week, when representatives of more than 190 governments, along with telecommunications companies and Internet groups, gather in Dubai for a once-in-a-generation meeting.


The ostensible purpose of the World Conference on International Telecommunications is to update a global treaty on technical standards needed to, say, connect a telephone call from Tokyo to Timbuktu. The previous conference took place in 1988, when the Internet was in its infancy and telecommunications remained a highly regulated, mostly analog business.


Critics of the International Telecommunication Union, the United Nations’ agency that is organizing the meeting, see a darker agenda. The blogosphere has been raging over supposed plans led by Russia to snatch away control of the Internet and hand it to the U.N. agency.


That seems unlikely. Any such move would require an international consensus, and opposition is widespread. Terry Kramer, the U.S. ambassador to the conference, has vowed to veto any change in how the Internet is overseen.


Hamadoun Touré, secretary general of the telecommunications union, has repeatedly said that it has no desire to take over the Internet or to stifle its growth. On the contrary, he says, one of the main objectives of the conference is to spread Internet access to more of the four and a half billion people around the world who still do not use it.


And yet, groups as diverse as Google, the Internet Society, the International Trade Union Confederation and Greenpeace warn that the discussions could set a bad precedent, encouraging governments to step up censorship or take other actions that would threaten the integrity of the Internet.


“This is a very important moment in the history of the Internet, because this conference may introduce practices that are inimical to its continued growth and openness,” Vinton G. Cerf, vice president and chief Internet evangelist at Google, said during a conference call.


Google set up a Web site last week, “Take Action,” encouraging visitors to sign a petition for a “free and open Internet.” The campaign is modeled on the successful drive last winter to defeat legislative proposals to crack down on Internet piracy in the United States.


Analysts say the outcry over censorship and Internet governance is a red herring; the real business of the conference is business.


“The far bigger issue — largely obscured by this discussion — are proposals that are more likely to succeed that envision changing the way we pay for Internet services,” Michael Geist, an Internet law professor at the University of Ottawa, said by e-mail.


In one submission to the conference, the European Telecommunications Network Operators’ Association, a lobbying group based in Brussels that represents companies like France Télécom, Deutsche Telekom and Telecom Italia, proposed that network operators be permitted to assess charges for content providers like Internet video companies that use a lot of bandwidth.


Analysts say the proposal is an acknowledgment by telecommunications companies that they cannot compete in the provision of digital content.


“The telecoms realize that they have lost the battle,” said Paul Budde, an independent telecommunications analyst in Australia. “They are saying, ‘We can’t beat the Googles and the Facebooks, so let’s try to charge them.”’


The European lobbying group says that without the new fees, there will be no money to invest in the network upgrades needed to deal with a surge in traffic. Regulators have required European telecommunications operators to open their networks to rivals, and the market for broadband is fiercely competitive, with rock-bottom prices.


In the United States, by contrast, most telecommunications companies have been permitted to maintain local monopolies — or duopolies, with cable companies — in broadband, keeping prices higher. And U.S. regulators have ordered broadband providers to give equal priority to all Internet traffic. Such “network neutrality” is incompatible with charging content providers for carriage.


Analysts say this may explain why U.S. telecommunications companies have not joined the European call for a new business model.


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Congress returns as 'fiscal cliff' talks slow









WASHINGTON – Congress returned in a lame duck session with no signs of quick compromise to prevent a tax hike for most Americans early next year.


Talks between the White House and Republican leaders in the House continued behind closed doors. Current tax rates expire Dec. 31.


Emboldened by his re-election, President Obama took his case for raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans to the public on Monday. He warned that the threat of higher taxes on middle-class Americans could dampen the Christmas shopping season.





"The President has called on Congress to take action and stop holding the middle class and our economy hostage over a disagreement on tax cuts for households with incomes over $250,000 per year," the White House said in a statement.


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The White House got a boost from billionaire investor Warren Buffett, who said the wealthy – himself included – should pay more. Noting the nation’s growing gap in income disparity, Buffett dismissed the Republican argument that tax hikes would hamper investments.


“In recent years, my gang has been leaving the middle class in the dust,” Buffett said. “So let’s forget about the rich and ultrarich going on strike and stuffing their ample funds under their mattresses if — gasp — capital gains rates and ordinary income rates are increased.”


Key Republicans, including House Speaker John A. Boehner, have signaled they are willing to put new tax revenues on the table, creating the outlines of a possible deal. Several Republican lawmakers used the Sunday talk shows to distance themselves from their party’s anti-tax pledge, publicly breaking with conservative stalwart Grover Norquist, although they insisted any agreement must include spending cuts.


A so-called grand bargain of tax hikes and spending cuts has eluded Washington in the past, but both political parties are wary of rattling the financial markets and sparking a crisis in consumer spending. Wall Street has signaled a bold deficit-reduction plan is needed to prevent a credit downgrade.


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No talks between the president and congressional leaders have been scheduled. The parties had agreed to meet this week to put the framework of a two-part deal on the table.


If Republicans continue to fight higher tax rates for the wealthy, Boehner will face pressure to propose an alternative way to raise new revenue – either by closing individual loopholes or capping deductions in a way that produces new money.


“Congressional and White House staff continue to work to find common ground that is consistent with the ‘balanced approach’ the White House says it wants – with significant spending cuts, and without job-killing small business tax hikes,” said a senior House leadership aide.


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Peter Jackson Races to Complete <em>The Hobbit</em> in Time for Premiere



Peter Jackson makes epic films, and epic films take an extraordinary amount of time to produce. In the case of The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, the trek to completion is coming down to the wire.


Jackson has been working on The Hobbit, which opens next month, at the Park Road Post Production facility in Wellington, New Zealand, for weeks to complete every last VFX trick, CGI shot and sound effect in time for the film’s opening.


“It’s due to be completed literally two days before the premiere. Hopefully,” Jackson says in the film’s latest production video (above). “You’re going to see a lot of sleep-deprived people in this blog — everybody’s working around the clock to get the film finished.”


The clip, which is as funny and fascinating as the eight other production diaries Jackson has released online, shows every last detail going into the film’s final push: Jabez Olssen and Jackson editing the film together, final construction of hundreds of CGI shots, and final sound effects for the movie.



There’s also a wonderful look into the “Department of Internal Beard-Hairs” — the motion-capture wing dedicated to the facial hair worn by the movie’s fantastic characters. “We’ve advanced the art of motion caption quite substantially on The Hobbit, including the detail of motion-capturing the individual hairs of dwarves’ beards,” Jackson says. Judging by the work displayed by his crew in this short clip, digital beards may never be the same.


Finally, there is the music soundtrack, which has been (is being?) recorded at the legendary Abbey Road Studios in London. It’s being played, on the day of the video diary at least, by a 93-person orchestra and it sounds, well, amazing. But even once it’s done and laid down in the final film, it’s just the beginning, notes re-recording mixer Michael Semanick.


“We’ve got another three weeks … and then another couple films,” he says. “The journey’s long from over, it’s just really starting.”


Check out the full video diary above. The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey hits theaters Dec. 14.


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Actor: CBS comedy ‘Two and a Half Men’ is ‘filth’












NEW YORK (AP) — The teenage actor who plays the half in the hit CBS comedy “Two and a Half Men” says it’s “filth” and through a video posted by a Christian church has urged viewers not to watch it.


Nineteen-year-old Angus T. Jones has been on the show since he was 10 but says he doesn’t want to be on it. He says, “Please stop watching it. Please stop filling your head with filth.”












The video was posted by the Forerunner Christian Church in California, where Jones says he went to meet his spiritual needs.


Show producer Warner Bros. Television has no comment. CBS hasn’t responded to a request for comment left Monday.


The show stars Jon Cryer as Jones’ uptight dad and originally featured Charlie Sheen as his hedonistic philandering uncle, but Sheen was replaced by Ashton Kutcher.


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Amid Hurricane Sandy, a Race to Get a Liver Transplant





It was the best possible news, at the worst possible time.




The phone call from the hospital brought the message that Dolores and Vin Dreeland had long hoped for, ever since their daughter Natalia, 4, had been put on the waiting list for a liver transplant. The time had come.


They bundled her into the car for the 50-mile trip from their home in Long Valley, N.J., to NewYork-Presbyterian Morgan Stanley Children’s Hospital in Manhattan. But it soon seemed that this chance to save Natalia’s life might be just out of reach.


The date was Sunday, Oct. 28, and Hurricane Sandy, the worst storm to hit the East Coast in decades, was bearing down on New York. Airports and bridges would soon close, but the donated organ was in Nevada, five hours away. The time window in which a plane carrying the liver would be able to land in the region was rapidly closing.


In a hospital room, Natalia watched cartoons. Her parents watched the clock, and the weather. “Our anxiety was through the roof,” Mrs. Dreeland said. “It just made your stomach into knots.”


The Dreelands, who are in their 60s, became Natalia’s foster parents in 2008 when she was 7 months old, and adopted her just before she turned 2. They have another adopted daughter, Dorothy Jane, who is 17.


Natalia is a “smart little cookie” who loves school and dressing up Alice, her favorite doll, her mother said. At age 3, Natalia used the word “discombobulated” correctly, Mr. Dreeland said.


Natalia’s health problems date back several years. Her gallbladder was taken out in 2010, and about half her liver was removed in 2011. The underlying problem was a rare disease, Langerhans cell histiocytosis. It causes a tremendous overgrowth of a type of cell in the immune system and can damage organs. Drugs can sometimes keep it in check, but they did not work for Natalia.


In her case, the disease struck the bile ducts, which led to progressive liver damage. “She would have eventually gone into liver failure,” said Dr. Nadia Ovchinsky, a pediatric liver transplant specialist at NewYork-Presbyterian. “And she demonstrated some signs of early liver failure.”


The only hope was a transplant.


Dr. Tomoaki Kato, Natalia’s surgeon, knew that the liver in Nevada was a perfect match for Natalia in the two criteria that matter most: blood type and size. The deceased donor was 2 years old, and though Natalia is nearly 5, she is small for her age. Scar tissue from her previous operations would have made it very difficult to fit a larger organ into her abdomen.


Though Dr. Kato had considered transplanting part of an adult liver into Natalia, a complete organ from a child would be far better for her. But healthy organs from small children do not often become available, Dr. Kato said. This was a rare opportunity, and he was determined to seize it.


But as the day wore on, the odds for Natalia grew slimmer. The operation in Nevada to remove the liver was delayed several times.


At many hospitals, surgery to remove donor organs is done at the end of the day, after all regularly scheduled operations. The Nevada hospital had a busy surgical schedule that day, made worse by a trauma case that took priority.


At the hospital in New York, Tod Brown, an organ procurement coordinator, had alerted a charter air carrier that a flight from Nevada might be needed. That company in turn contacted West Coast carriers to pick up the donated liver and fly it to New York.


Initially, two carriers agreed, but then backed out. Several other charter companies also declined.


Mr. Brown told Dr. Kato that they might have to decline the organ. Dr. Kato, soft-spoken but relentless, said, “Find somebody who can fly.”


Dr. Kato used to work in Miami, where pilots found ways to bypass hurricanes to deliver organs. Even during Hurricane Katrina, his hospital performed transplants.


“I asked the transplant coordinators to just keep pushing,” he said.


Mr. Brown said, “Dr. Kato knew he was going to get that organ, one way or another.”


As the trajectory of the storm became clearer, one of the West Coast charter companies agreed to attempt the flight. The plan was to land at the airport in Teterboro, N.J. The backup was Newark airport, and the second backup was Albany, from where an ambulance would finish the trip.


The timing was critical: organs deteriorate outside the body, and ideally a liver should be transplanted within 12 hours of being removed.


Early Monday, as the storm whirled offshore, the plane landed at Teterboro. Soon a nurse rushed to tell the Dreelands that she had just seen an ambulance with lights and sirens screech up to the hospital. Someone had jumped out carrying a container.


At about 5 a.m., the couple kissed Natalia and saw her wheeled off to the operating room.


Three weeks later, she is back home, on the mend. The complicated regimen of drugs that transplant patients need is tough on a child, but she is getting through it, her father said.


Recently, Mr. Dreeland said, he found himself weeping uncontrollably during a church service for the family of the child who had died. “Their child gave my child life,” he said.


Though only time will tell, because the histiocytosis appeared limited to Natalia’s bile ducts and had not affected other organs, her doctors say there is a good chance that the transplant has cured her.


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DealBook: Mortgage Interest Deduction Is Now Seen as Vulnerable

A tax break that has long been untouchable could soon be in for some serious manhandling.

Many home buyers deduct their mortgage interest when assessing their tax bill, a perk that has helped bolster the income of millions of families — and the broader housing market.

But as President Obama and Congress try to hash out a deal to reduce the budget deficit, the mortgage interest deduction looks vulnerable. Limits on a broad array of deductions could emerge in any budget deal. It is likely that any caps would be structured to aim at high-income households, and would diminish or end the mortgage tax break for many of those taxpayers.

“This is definitely a chance worth jumping for,” said Amir Sufi, a professor at the Booth School of Business at the University of Chicago. “For a fixed amount of revenue, it’s better to remove deductions than increase marginal tax rates.”

Such a move would be fiercely opposed by the real estate industry. The industry has played a crucial role in defending the tax break, even as other countries with high homeownership have phased it out.

Housing market players who oppose any whittling down of the mortgage deduction still have time to press their case. If President Obama and Congress manage to reach an agreement to avoid the looming tax raises and spending cuts, their deal will be broad in nature. Then, over the following months, Congress will hash out details, like any caps on deductions.

“Until Congress introduces specific legislation, there’s nothing to say about any proposed changes to the mortgage interest deduction,” Gary Thomas, president of the National Association of Realtors, said in an e-mailed statement. “However, it has always been the N.A.R.’s position that the mortgage interest deduction is vital to the stability of the American housing market and economy, and we will remain vigilant in opposing any future plan that modifies or excludes the deductibility of mortgage interest.”

One of the reasons the mortgage tax break is so vulnerable is that both Democrats and Republicans have recently favored capping deductions, including both President Obama and the recent Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney.

What is more, deductions could be used to grease a compromise in the budget negotiations. High earners would be hit most by deduction limits, something that might make Republicans recoil. But the party may tolerate such a policy in return for a deal that limits how much actual tax rates go up for high-income households.

Tax numbers suggest it may not be hard to structure deduction limits in a way that leaves most middle-income households untouched.

With the mortgage interest deduction, households realized tax savings of $83 billion in 2010, according to figures from the Reason Foundation. Nearly $65 billion, or 78 percent of those savings, went to households earning $100,000 or more.

There are a range of ways to increase tax revenue by aiming at higher earners, some less comprehensive than others. For instance, the interest deduction relating to second homes could be ended. Also, the cap on mortgage debt eligible for the interest rate deduction — currently $1 million — could be reduced.

There are broader approaches, too. In its proposed budget, the Obama administration plans to focus on top earners. The administration suggests capping deductions at 28 percent for high-income households, those earning more than $250,000.

Under the current rules, a high-earning household deducting $20,000 in interest payments would probably apply a 35 percent rate to that amount and receive $7,000 in tax savings. The Obama budget aims to limit that tax saving by capping that rate at 28 percent. If that rate were applied to $20,000 of interest payments, the saving would fall to $5,800.

The United States would capture the difference. Over the next 10 years, that 28 percent cap could increase tax revenue by $584 billion, according to the Treasury Department.

Separately, the Obama administration also wants to limit high earners’ deductions by letting certain Bush-era exemptions expire. Altogether, the Treasury Department thinks it could raise $749 billion over 10 years by limiting deductions for higher earners. That’s substantially more than the $684 billion it thinks it could raise from increasing their tax rates.

Still, there are situations where certain middle-income earners do get hit by deduction limits.

Consider a policy that uses a dollar limit, and caps all deductions at $35,000. That amount would be plenty to cover most middle-income households’ mortgage interest, state and local taxes and charitable giving.

But people earnings more than $100,000 may start to reach the limit, according to Sidney B. Rosenberg, associate professor emeritus at the University of North Florida. He assumes a household earns $110,000 and has a $300,000 mortgage on which it pays $17,500 a year. It also pays property taxes and state taxes at estimated nationally average rates. Such a family would have nearly $35,000 of deductible expenses, Dr. Rosenberg calculates.

One argument against curtailing the mortgage deduction is that it could reduce demand for housing, depressing home prices when the housing market is still somewhat weak. The National Association of Realtors believes a removal of the deduction could reduce property values by 15 percent, according to a presentation last year from its chief economist, Lawrence Yun.

Other analysts say they believe the housing industry overstates the potential impact. With several forms of government subsidy also supporting housing, it’s hard to single out the effect of the mortgage deduction. At the most, the Reason Foundation estimates, the deduction may bolster house prices by 3 percent.

Since any deduction cap is likely to aim at higher earners, expensive houses would be most affected. But big-ticket homes appear much more resilient to shocks than lower-cost dwellings.

CoreLogic, a housing data company, tracks data that effectively divides the market into higher- and lower-cost houses, grouping them based on the size of the mortgages. The prices of the higher-cost houses are up 5.9 percent since the start of 2005, before the housing crash. In contrast, the houses at the lower end have fallen 13.5 percent in price since the beginning of 2005.

Given the apparent sturdiness of the higher end of the housing market, politicians may decide there are few risks in effectively capping mortgage deductions for high earners. Limiting tax breaks in a way that could reduce mortgage relief would be a change for Washington, which has done so much to support housing.

Nick Kasprak, an analyst at the Tax Foundation, said that up until recently he didn’t expect to see a cap on deductions. “But now,” he said, “it seems both parties are open to pursuing this strategy.”

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